Random Dionysian Fandom Chick

Hi! Welcome to the club! Don't worry, we're quite okay with being called obsessive! heee! K/L and BSG took over my life! I annoyed the frak out of everybody within hearing/typing distance with my ramblings/spazzings/general obsessiveness and inability to talk about anything that wasn't BSG *G*

ANd YES! THe show is going to STOMP on your heart and break it into minute shards and you'll love every minute of it *G*

KL fic I can rec but the only vids I've seen are Leo's she's got em posted over at her kurayaminokoe lj I think.

As for fic!

Google Something Pretty by Kate Andrews (AWESOME and sweet and smutty all at the same time), "An Autumn Wedding" and "Winter of Our Discontent" also by Kate Andrews (But not until AFTER you see HOme Pt 1 and 2) "Lee and Kara, Kara and Lee" by Mnemosyne (but only AFTER You've seen Home PT 1 and 2 as well) and basically I can't think of fic that's not spoilery for most of season 2 so just watch season 2.

I started watching BSG w/ the S2 premiere so by the time I met Anders I didn't know who Lee was so I didn't hate him (and had never seen Kara and Lee together which is just SO WRONG!), I didn't start to love BSG til Home Pt 1, which is the first time I saw K/L together though if that tells you anything *G* He's a pretty nice guy though, very likable in Larraq-esque fashion. (and dude! I just made a FS ref! To someone who actually would get it! YEeeeeee!)

Okay will stop rambling on your LJ now :)

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Giggle. Hi again! (And yes, it absolutely rocks to be able to make other fandom references and have people get them. Too rare in my off-line life, unfortunately.)

I've actually read all of the above. Including "Lee and Kara, Kara and Lee" which I read prior to watching "Scar"... I was all ok with everything after reading the fic, but then something about the conversations she has with both Lee and Helo in "Scar" just worried me. (and you'd think that, given that there's actual snogging between L/K in "Scar" that I'd have loved it. But it... unsettled me about Kara. Partly because I don't like seeing her hurting (I've attached myself to her about like I did Aeryn) and partly because I can't see a way around it. Or rather a way for her to get over him (Anders). If he were there, they could have a fight, she could realize the error of her ways, ::winks:: etc. - or hell, Lee and Anders could fight over her. Wouldn't *THAT* be lovely! If he were really, for real dead then there'd be grieving and moving on. But it's kind of this limbo about it.

Also, I have to see it, but if she's already as hung up about Lee as she apparently is in "Colonial Day" and "Kobol's Last Gleaming", then how could she fall that in love with someone else? But again, I need to watch it. Yes. That will of course make it make more sense. I know. (Luckily my friend's mom tapes the show and just lent me the entire second season. No more waiting for Netflix!)

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Ahh but the snogging was way too angsty to be enjoyed properly, or rather in a non-angsty fashion, cause I did enjoy the angst! Wheeeeeee! Angst! (Hey I'm a scaper, it's a prerequisite you have to enjoy angst *G*)

As for Anders, well you ave to meet him, because he's just the opposite of Lee on the surface and since K&L are in their big huge fight at the time she meets Anders I can see why she'd like him. And he's like Lee in a lot of ways as well, not to mention she wouldn't allow herself to actually make a move/acknowledge her feelings about Lee b/c of everything and their history and all that but I really shouldn't go on and let you actually SEE it *G*

As for the limbo I feel ya, and Lee's comment about her only being okay w/ being in love with dead guys was cutting but so true because she's so hung up on Anders more in the idea of Anders and the idea of loving Anders. And yeah Scar, killed me because I LOVE Kara, totally attached to her and I hated to see her hurting so bad. The beauty of the BSG chars and esp Starbuck is that they're so frakked up and S2 only adds to that! Drop me a comment if you want to talk about the epis as u watch em cause they are so spazz worthy! And be really glad u don't have the HUUUUUGE gap midseason because that killed having to wait that long!!!!

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uh... can I have a lee/kara 'centric synopsis of season two? Cause I'm seeing little tiny things here and there that confuse me and worry me and I have to work (or be places other than at home in front of my TV) all weekend and I think if I have to wait to find out what is and isn't canon and fannon or whether what happens is really what happens I'll lose it! Eeep! (I'm fine if I have no idea, but once I have a little bit of what's going on I go crazy w/o knowing.)

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I'm gonna go w/ relationshipwise and not individually here, although of course the individuality has to come in some places and it's kind of killing me to spoil you because most of it is SO good partly b/c u don't know it's coming.

But anyway! BSG S2!

Kara and Lee fight over her frakking Baltar, Kara does what she always does and is reckless and runs away to redeem herself by doing something spectacular, Caprica Caprica Caprica Anders Caprica, we get some nice history on her dad here and a bunch of stuff meanwhile Lee has a NoGoodAllBadReallyTerribleDay back on Galactica and commits MUTINY w/ the president and half the fleet. Kara gets the Arrow of Apollo (and we all made jokes on how she really didn't need to go back to Caprica for that incessantly) and jumps back to where the fleet was and Lee welcomes her back with open arms and a KISS that surprises the hell out of our Lt. Thrace as he does it in the middle of the hangar bay in front of the president, but they do what they do best and brush it off. Later Lee tries to get her to talk about what went down on Caprica and lets her know that "I'm your friend, and I love you" and Kara brushes off the offer to talk but teases him about loving her and he blushes and is all "You know what I mean" and she just GRINS and is all "No! You love me! No take backs" and he runs away and she just kinda stands there and GRINS a silly little grin. The fleet is reunited, and we get some nice LK being friends in Final Cut (where we also get Lee in only a towel for a good 3 minutes solid!), then they meet up with Pegasus which is another Battlestar run by a woman who makes Crais, Scorpy and Grayza look like happy well adjusted people and aside from being a dictator and of course Kara and Lee get transferred to her ship. Lee goes out on a stealth mission to blow up a basestar and his ship gets blown up around him, when he comes back from his spacewalk he's depressed and confesses to Kara that he wished he hadn't made it back. Then we get Scar a few epis later, which you've seen, so I don't need to summarize, then a bunch of stuff happens individually, Lee is there when the Cloud 9 bar is taken hostage by Cylon supporters in the fleet and Kara is sent in to observe the situation, but being Kara she pulls a gun and there's a fight and she accidentally shoots Lee, which does nothing for their strained relationship at the time. Next Epi Lee is sent over to teh Pegasus as the XO and before he leaves Kara goes to say goodbye and actually tries to talk to him here she asks if they're okay re: the shooting and everything and Lee teases her a bit and then hugs her and says they're okay. The next KL interaction we get is in LDYB1 and 2 and it's not good, Kara's happy and doesn't realize she's hurting Lee by acting like she doesn't care for him in that way or maybe she just doesn't realize what she's doing and that's it. S2 ends w/ K&L not on the best of terms, their relationship is extremely strained and they're separated when the Cylons return. Hope that wasn't hugely spoilery and just spoilery enough :)

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No, actually, that was just about perfect. See, usually? I love being spoiler free girl. But (especially when I come into something mid-story) it's almost impossible to avoid at least some of the spoilers and still be able to read fic and vids and such, and once I know a little bit, especially when I'm trying to sort out fannon and cannon it just makes me crazy. I actually feel a little bit *better* about things after having seen the new trailer for season 3 though. It makes me more hopeful than the first one I'd seen on Scifi Pulse. But I'm horribly, horribly (perhaps most of all) disturbed by the "wedding tattoos" I've seen mentioned... I'm not sure if it's just that they exist, or if it's that they're *wings* and she doesn't have any business flying with anyone else. Even figuratively. (I'm apparently going into uber territorial mode. Sigh. Didn't help that I stumbled on Wisteria's fic. Shouldn't have read it. Really, really shouldn't have.)

Btw, did they actually say on the show how long they've know each other, or are all the backstory stories rampant fannon?

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Rampant fanon! We know they knew each other, and I'm pretty sure they knew each other before Zak died (but I"m not entirely sure where they say that) and that's about it.

I read about the wedding tattoos in a fic somewhere, and that was the only place I saw it, I've been staying spoiler free though so I don't know if it's just the fans going nuts or what. But if it's true I don't want her to have Wings with Anders DAMNIT! They don't fly together and they never will and it's not allowed! Grrrrr!

Wisteria writes good fic as does Meyerlemon and Banthafodder (off the top of my head) and for the non Lee/Kara stuff there is this AWESOME AU Dee/Gaeta fic by Poisontaster that is just KILLING me (it's a WIP and she's been hijacked by the supernatural fandom so who knows when we'll get more! *whimper*)

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icepixie

This show is gonna fucking break my heart into a million tiny peices isn't it?

Pretty much, yeah. ;)

I'm not much of a Kara/Lee fan (I have no objection to them; they just do nothing for me), but I can point you to some Adama/Roslin stuff, if you like. ;)

stars_like_dust writes excellent fic in general, and I know K/L is her main ship/BFF pairing for BSG. I think most of her stuff is here.

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I'm willing to try Adama/Roslin. I can kinda almost see it - but not quite in the situation they're in. But I'm open to the experiment. I also want to ship Boomer/Helo, but I'm not sure I want *THAT* much pain and angst in my world. Anymore than I already have with this show.

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icepixie

I can kinda almost see it - but not quite in the situation they're in.

Yeah, them doing anything while she's still the president and he's the military commander is probably not the best idea. But the UST could set the room on fire, and both actors, particularly EJO, have said in various interviews that they play up the chemistry/attraction between the two of them. Knowing RDM, probably they'll get together, be happy for a while, and then something will happen that CUTS MY HEART OUT AND STOMPS ON IT. ;)

It's been a while since I read in the BSG fandom, so my recs are less numerous than I thought they would be. The main archive is here (it's in some sort of relationship with

adama_roslin). I remember Charis, Karihan, and Kimbari as being particularly good.

Rheanna's Five Deaths (Laura Roslin is amazing, particularly the second part.

Kimbari's Triangle was one of the first BSG fics I read, and I still love it to death. It's incredibly AU--like, Bill and Laura meet before he ever marries Caroline AU--but don't let that stop you.

I also want to ship Boomer/Helo, but I'm not sure I want *THAT* much pain and angst in my world.

Oh, God. Ow. OW. God. *winces* Season two will KILL YOU DEAD.

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Adama/Roslin makes me squeee! There's more shippy in S2 than there is in S1 because there's more trust there and it's really nice. They're quietly shippy in a way that sneaks up on you when you're not looking. :)

Boomer/Helo will KILL YOU DEAD! I ship them, but I also can't forget she's a cylon and the struggle to reconcile that she might be programmed into being in love (maybe not specifically with him!) and just enjoying the ship is tough.

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i-am-girlfriday.livejournal.com

Hello! When BSG gets it's vice grip on you, beware. It sounds like you've only seen an episode here and there plus the mini? That was me last summer! I think I made it to January before I became hardcore and subsequently started my LJ addiction. I didn't even get an account until June! I just read everything K/L I could get my hands on! If you haven't read stuff by them already (both are quite prolific in the sheer amount they write and post!) try

latteaddict and

hackaddict.

rawles has some amazing K/L fics, as does

brynnmck. These fics got me hooked, so have fun. Everyone on my F-list writes great K/L stuff, too. There styles range from crack!fic to baby fic. (My fic kinks grow stranger by the day.)

:)

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Hi!

To date I've seen the mini and all of season 1, as well as ep 2.15. I actually have all of season two in my possession as of Friday thanks to a friend's mom, but because of work and some other obligations, I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. (Which is driving me crazy!) So far this show has grabbed me harder and faster than any of my other fandoms. (Since I've been a fangirl since I was, oh, 3 or so - that's saying something.) Rougher, too - and do Kara and/or Lee muses *ever* shut up? Just wondering, because so far? Unh-uh.

But many thanks for all the recs. ::vbg:: (And I know ALL about fic kinks... I have several - baby!fic being one of them, actually.)

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If baby fic is your kink you MUST read

ez_as_pi. She just did 50-1 sentence thingies almost all about babies and she's expanding on them! She has a few other series that are future + baby. I shall friend you back :)
BSG ate my brain. You're not alone. And no, K/L never shut up, not even in my head...especially in my head.

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Thank you! I spent the better part of my breaks today (as well as time between phone calls and emails - I work customer service) reading some of her stuff. It's wonderful, and just what I need to get through the angst of the show. ::bounces::

And friends, especially in new fandoms = love. (You'll have to forgive me, I've had caffeine this evening. It makes me hyper.)

The rest of the day at work was spent scribbling in a notebook because Kara has opinions on the new trailer for season 3. Nope, never shuts up. I don't think even Aeryn (Farscape) was this talkative!

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Hey sis! And welcome to the BSG insanity. *g*

Vids you need to check out...

Cold Cold Water: http://www.wolfpupserenade.com/miscvids.html (Probably the best Lee/Kara focused BSG one I've seen. Also, there's a TrekVid on the same page...Q/Picard to Footloose...which is much with the hysterical. *g* And great Firefly, Farscape and Buffy vids on the same site...so lots of goodness.)

Prayer: http://www.alter-idem.com/?now=2&category=Battlestar%20Galactica&id=51 (Not a Lee/Kara vid so much...a general vid focusing on the war and the differing idealogies of the Cylons, humans, and those trapped in between. But brilliant, and bad-ass. LithiumDoll is one of my favorite vidders in any fandom...check out her Who, Scape, and Firefly vids too!)

Proud: http://www.dualbunny.com/buffy/ (This vid is the reason I am a BSG fan. No joke. I'd tried watching the mini and couldn't get into it, and then the first couple of epis Jodie showed us when attempting to hook us were 'Tigh Me Up Tigh Me Down' and 'Colonial Day'...and out of context, they just didn't do a lot for me either. But then she and Krissy showed us this vid, and I saw everything I'd been hoping BSG was gonna be...family issues with Lee & his dad, the Kara/Lee shippy, humans struggling to hold together in the face of incredible disaster, and kick-ass starfighter combat. It was exactly the feeling I wanted from the show...so I gave BSG one more chance, and started feeling the love. *g*)

Also, I'm with Jo...Anders is actually a cool guy. And the essence of the triangle there is that Kara doesn't feel she's good enough for Lee, she feels like she'd only bring him down, mess things up in his life. With Anders, she's got a clean slate, no familial history, she doesn't have to work with him and she gets to rescue him, so...

Now, Dee on the other hand..... *snerk*

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::shudders at Dee/Lee sacriledge:: Ugh. I mean, I *like* dee - at least so far - but not with him! wtf?! Uh, no. Sigh. Hell, I'd believe Cally first, if Tyrol didn't already have dibs. (And how uber-cute are they? ::wiggles::)

LOVE LOVE LOVE Prayer! Love. One of the things that has pulled me in so strongly is the religion. (Doesn't hurt that, dude! People who worship (kinda) my gods! W/o making comic relief out of them! (Sometimes that aspect of Xena got on my nerves. Not badly, really, I didn't care, but the gods they portrayed and my view of them don't equate.)) I particularly love (and have a dribbly bunny of a fic based on) the part that juxtaposes "Let me enlighten you - this is the way I pray" with Kara and Leoben then over to Lee blowing the mining base. I can see them equating destroying Cylons as a prayer for the dead. I love (and have loved) LithiumDoll's stuff ever since FS. I squeed when I found that one.

I will definately check the others out. Thankees. And I cannot wait to talk this fandom w/ you.

Now we just have to reel Ann in. Must have my Twin in on this. She'll *love* Lee - I'm just sure of it. He's all her type. (Though how shocked was I to find out that Jamie Bamber is a brit? Whoa major accent switch!)

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Dee's alright, but the thing with Lee is just frakked. You'll know when ya get there.

And heheheheh...Cally and Tyrol ARE rather adorable, even if I was kinda blindsided by it late in S2. (I also am still a big Tyrol/Sharon fan. There are some incredible wrinkles there when you least expect them!)

Prayer: Yeah, it's great...and you're dead on in the killing-as-prayer thing. There's actually a 'commentary' text for the vid on the site there, and that is mentioned in there.

And randomly, your Lee Adama fun fact for the day: Ben Browder auditioned for the role!

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I'm trying to remember if Farscape ever made me physically ill. I'm about 1/2 through Lay Down Your Burdens pt 2, and I just want to throw up. I just... I just don't know how to *fix* this. I don't know how to make them better - any of them. I don't know how they can get back to anything good. (Yes, now Matchbox 20 is in my head, but it's not a happy fun way.) They're hurting and it's *wrong* and I think the thing that upsets me most of all is they'll never fly together again - that Lee'll never fly again at all. And Kara's killing herself even if she doesn't know it and how the fucking *hell* can she think she can give up flying? But it's more elemental than that. I feel like I'll never have my show back again. Which sounds ridiculous since I just found it and it was already set, but it's true. There's like this shining moment and then it's gone. Because the thing that I loved so much, the "them" that I thought I saw is gone, and I'm not sure I'm ok with not having it back.

Ok, sorry. I'm just a mess. :(

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*Hugs tight* Oh, I understand...

I didn't entirely like Lee being promoted out of the Vipers either...though I think there's plenty of story mileage there. (And I love the bit in the S3 trailer with him confronting his dad as almost an equal.) On the other hand, I do honestly believe that a lot of these things we're seeing are temporary. This isn't going to become the New Caprica show. Anders is pretty clearly deathmarked, the poor guy, and I don't foresee Lee & Dee lasting in the long run. I even think Lee might very well end up back in a Viper, somehow, through some funky circumstance.

And I really don't think the writers have given up on Kara & Lee, I think it's just an even longer, twistier road than Joss or Kemper gave their ships. It fits BSG's harsher world, that people might need to marry the wrong partners before they hook up with the right ones.

I really do know how ya feel, though. I do miss my Viper combat with Lee & Kara, dammit! As much as I love so much of the show, am even intrigued with the new twists, they've never topped 'Act of Contrition/You Can't Go Home Again' in my book!

*Big hugs*

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Guh.

(just watched "Proud")

Oh. my. gods. Guh.

Lovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelove...

Thank you! LOVED!

I couldn't quite get into Cold Cold Water... I think that I would like the music by itself, but it didn't translate to vid so well for me.

You might want to cruise by YouTube and see if you can find the BSG vid to "The Rose" by Bette Midler. It's multi-ship, and lovely. I think you'd like it.

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